In this post, I will discuss the most dangerous and difficult problem of all, suicide and parasuicidal behavior. Parasuicidality includes suicide attempts, gestures, threats and non-suicidal self-injurious behavior (SIB) such as cutting or burning oneself. In my opinion, self-induced vomiting and drug or alcohol binging are also SIB. In some cases, also in my opinion, excessive body piercing and tatooing may also be.
***Important caveat: In cases in which a family member engages in suicidal or parasuicidal behavior, strong efforts should be made to get that person to a mental health professional who has experience with, or even specializes in, borderline personality disorder. No one should attempt to deal with such a person all by themselves. However, getting an oppositional individual to seek help is often in itself no simple feat.
Having said that, I can still discuss some things that are helpful for anyone dealing with such a person to know.
First of all, it is important to be aware that just because a person has make a lot of idle suicide threats in the past, this does not mean that they will not kill themselves in the future. Follow-up studies have shown that individuals with BPD have a 10% rate of completed suicides over the long term. That is nothing to sneeze at. Of course, that means that the good news is that about 90% of persons with BPD will not kill themselves.
So one does have to take suicide threats seriously. On the other hand, if a relative goes into hypercontrol mode every time a person talks about suicide, and tries over and over again to get the person committed to a mental hospital, this may actually make things worse rather than better. Remember, making others feel helpless is part of what persons with BPD try hard to do, while secretly hoping that they fail at it.
There is no evidence that psychiatric hospitalizations reduce the long term risk of suicide in patients with BPD. Hospitalization should only be used occasionally to buy time during an unusual acute crisis so that the unusual circumstances pass. This may reduce an imminent risk.
Furthermore, individuals with BPD can use parasuicidal behavior to make others look foolish.
I learned this the hard way. When I first started practicing in the late 1970's, a time when BPD was far less prevalent than it is today - it wasn't even in the DSM until 1980 - I was providing back up coverage for another psychiatrist. I got a call from one of his patients.
The woman immediately started making wild suicide threats. I found out where she was at and called the police to go out to her house. By the time they got there, she was calmly knitting away like Madame DeFarge and sweetly telling the police, "I don't know what Dr. Allen is so excited about; I never said anything about killing myself."
First of all, if an individual with BPD says that they are thinking about suicide, this is usually not a suicide threat. People with BPD frequently think about suicide. Doing so is actually one of the criteria for the condition. If, on the other hand, the patient says, "I am going to kill myself," then the threat should be taken more seriously.
Second, if a person is dead set on killing himself, pardon the pun, then there is literally nothing you can do about it. You are helpless. As mentioned, hospitalizations can only buy time. We cannot lock such people in a hospital room and throw away the key. They will be out eventually. Fortunately, most individuals with BPD are highly ambivalent about dying.
Third, most SIB is not meant to lead to death. People hurt themselves because it makes them feel better when they are overwhelmed and highly anxious, not because they wish to die. "Pulling your hair out" is a common expression concerning this feeling, so the urge is not exactly unknown to non-BPD individuals. Otherwise normal people often slap themselves in the head or pound their fist into a wall when frustrated. So, while witnessing or hearing about a loved one engaging in SIB is very distressing, one usually does not have to worry about actual suicide.
Suicide gestures are usually impulsive, non-lethal reactions to an episode of an interpersonal conflict that are meant to manipulate the other person, and likewise do not often lead to death. People in this situation will cut their wrists or take a handful of pills that they know will not kill them. Obviously, if a person takes a handful of pills one should probably call 911 anyway. Sometimes suicide gestures accidentally lead to death. One can choke to death on the pills, for example. Several rock stars apparently met their demise in this fashion.
Another important clue as to the seriousness of a suicide threat is the tone of voice and the choice of words made by the threatener. If someone says that they may kill themselves at some point and are being coy about exactly when and where, that usually means that they are not imminently suicidal but are trying to make you feel helpless. Another clue is when their tone sounds something like, "Nyah, Nyah, Nyah - Nyah, Nyah, I'm going to kill myself and there's nothing you can do about it." The threat may not be a serious one.
For example, the very first patient with BPD I saw as a resident, which coincidentally was the first patient I ever had in psychotherapy, started making such threats. We were in an outpatient office late on a Friday afternoon. I picked up the phone to call security. She calmly reacted with, "You know if you call security, I'll run out of the room and I'll be gone before they get here." Zing, she had me. I was in a total panic as she indeed quickly left the office.
In the cell phone age, things are even worse. Threateners can phone in a suicide threat, knowing that there is no way they can even be located.
I spoke to a faculty member about the patient I just mentioned. He suggested I could have said, "You really want me to worry about you, don't you?"
Had she then replied, "Oh, bull! You don't care about me," I could have replied, "Well, I am going to be worried about you all weekend." Good advice.
I could have also said, in a sincere tone, "I sure hope you don't do that."
By the way, that patient showed up on time for our next regularly scheduled visit as if nothing had happened.
I do have one other intervention I frequently use called the paradoxical offer to hospitalize. It's paradoxical because it is meant to keep people out of the hospital. It is not really appropriate for a lay person to use, so I won't describe it here (Therapists can find it in my book, Psychotherapy with Borderline Patients: An Integrated Approach). Besides, I don't want potential patients to know all of my secrets.
Would a "hunger strike" in a frail elderly woman qualify as self-injurious behavior?
ReplyDeletea fan and a frequent reader, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
"Fortunately, most individuals with BPD are highly ambivalent about dying."
ReplyDeleteAlthough I won't claim to speak for "most" of any arbitrary group, I can offer the perspective that, as someone raised as the family scapegoat, I am alive because it turns my stomach to think of proving the family right. Nice dance, eh? My existence is the official excuse for their unhappiness, but ending it would only reinforce their convictions and provide a built-in excuse for all their future miseries. I've extricated myself just enough from the unit that I have to stay alive for as long as other people matter. Cute! And RIDICULOUS. Grrr....
That is way oversimplified and may not be as clear as I'd like it to be. (I'm not quite ignoring "with BPD," but I'd suppose people with any number of issues are ambivalent about dying.)
I have BPD and I have NEVER wanted or tried to make anyone feel helpless. I am not manipulative. You over-generalize doctor.
ReplyDeleteNever 'wanted or tried' is not the same thing as never having done so.
DeleteWow, talk about an invalidating response right there! I think it's very reasonable for anyone, BPD or not, to wonder aloud why "the other" would feel so sure about their generalizations even in the face of conflicting information. Also, since we've moved on from the 80's, most in the field seem to have realized that BPD is a syndrome, not a single disease, the permutations of which yield at least 256 different clinical presentations of what is now termed simply "BPD."
DeleteI am a BPD and I never use suicide as a threat. It really really hurts when people make fun of the word in front of me. It feels like discrimination - kicking you because you feel bad.
ReplyDeleteI'd be very grateful if you could reply. I've found this series of blogposts very helpful.
ReplyDeleteA close friend of mine has BPD. Her behaviour has been particularly bad since a bad break-up three years ago. During that period, I have found through trial and error that patience and kindness are very effective. However, I find it hard to cope when she threatens to kill herself, which has happened probably four times now. At this point, I feel furious with her. Yesterday, after finding out that, contrary to her email, she was not about to kill herself (she was instead informing her friends that if things turn out a certain way, she will kill herself), I snapped and told her she was being selfish and manipulative. I might need to not be in contact with her for some weeks now. I'm not sure. Maybe I'll feel differently in a few days.
But what I want to know is, should I tell her how emotionally shocking and traumatic it is to get these threats and tell her there is a boundary in friendship and she is crossing it when she does things like that? But could that reinforce her desire to make me feel that way in future? Is it somehow counter-productive to try and make her think about the effect of what she's done?
Or should I somehow pretend it didn't get to me as much as it did and try to move on and be calm and kind? I just feel that doing so wouldn't be human. I'm not her shrink. I'm her friend.
More broadly, do you think it's crazy to try and maintain a friendship with a person with BPD? Fundamentally, I don't really believe there's anything wrong with her. I mean, I believe she's been in pain and depression, but she's mostly a sensible and very intelligent person. It's just... she winds herself into these fits, collateral damage be damned. And I get sick of being collateral damage at times.
Hi Anonymous,
DeleteUnfortunately what works for one person may not work for another, and individuals with the disorder vary widely as to how serious their suicide threats can be, so I cannot really give you any specific advice.
More generally, I absolutely do not think it's crazy to maintain a friendship with someone with the disorder if you usually enjoy their company, so long as you are aware of your own limitations and communicate these limits to them clearly.
In general, when the relationship is in a calm state and no threats are being made, one should let that person know what those limits are in an almost apologetic tone of voice but without backing down on them. For example, saying something like, "I'm sorry, I want to be there for you when you feel bad, but it's too upsetting for me when you talk like that and I'll have to back away." If she can't accept that, (even though she is probably already aware of it), or tries to guilt trip you and won't stop, then you probably cannot remain friends with her. (Even Marsha Linehan won't talk to patient for at least 24 hours after they self-injure).
Thanks for your response.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever heard of a person getting so furious that they reach out to a complete stranger, threaten "I'm going to kill myself as intended. Goodbye." And then 2 hours later, after no response, asking a totally non related random question? When the person is called out for it (after expressing deep concern and the culprit refusing to give their location) they snap and threaten the person for not understanding, using the words "you'll pay for this". Is this typical BPD behavior? I'm sorry but anyone who uses this to manipulate people are seeking control. They know they have the problem, they know they're looking for control and they know they'll cause someone to panic. When the person is untouched by manipulation tactics and refuses to give in, and it causes threats said in anger, it is no longer my responsibility to feel sorry for the person. They are an abuser, and it is written everywhere you can find that this is classic emotional abuse. Did you ever think the person just may get off of gaslighting others? And that this is how they control people? Everyone pussyfooting around them and "taking it seriously" every time turns into a world of enablers who have to suffer and put themselves on the chopping block, just to appease society and "feel sorry". Not on my watch. Abusers can take a hike. I'm sorry but I'm tired of all the psych articles who want to sugarcoat everything and sound acceptable to society. Now and then you will find that if you just take your glasses off and put your pencils down, you'll see that this world is full of people who manipulate for money, power, control and self importance. You're giving them a bone every time you assume they are helpless. Give me a break. I'm tired of hearing this jargon.. Statistics on suicides showing 90/10 have no way of saying that the person you're dealing with isn't just an abusive jackass who likes to get off on controlling you. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of therapists out there tired of staring at the DSM, and sometimes just want to say, "oh grow up and stop being such an @$$#%! @
ReplyDeleteYour reaction is certainly understandable and quite normal. However, it is often precisely the reaction such a person is trying to elicit, and they are very good at getting it from other people. (They are also looking for someone who'lllater feel guilty about reacting that way). Deep down, they feel very out of control and miserable.
DeleteFor an explanations of what makes them act this way, see http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/matter-personality/201109/the-family-dynamics-patients-borderline-personality-disorder
I appreciate the work that has gone into investigating and explaining what makes BPD patients act the way they do. Unfortunately, I found that hitting the books on BPD impeded me from understanding my own story. It wound up being just another way to center the experience of the person with BPD in my life. It dovetailed all too well with the propaganda war they were waging -- the one about how their pain made them the most important person in any given room, and nobody else's feelings mattered because the PwBPD had cornered the market on pain.
DeleteThe previous anon has a point. I found that there was a lot to be said for black-boxing the PwBPD and their motivations, at least temporarily, long enough to ask myself, "What effect is this behavior having on me? Am I being abused? Am I okay with what is happening? How much am I leaning on other people to help me deal with this, and am I okay with that? Are they? Am I capable of leaving, and what happens to me if I do?" I'd started out being pretty good about keeping my head, communicating my limits like a champ, but the PwBPD hit a rough patch and turned up the heat. After being emotionally scoured and traumatized by textbook BPD behavior -- not just the suicide threats, but the rages, the push-pull stunts, the whole deal -- it would have been asking too much for me to hold the PwBPD's perspective in mind while I reclaimed my own. Trying on the perspective of "Christ what an asshole" gave me the space to think.
They took up all the air in the room. After that, I needed a lot of air. Having a complex, consistent, ongoing strategy takes a lot of mental energy, and there's only so much of that to go around.
Unsurprisingly, I left, and that person has been making suicide threats for five months straight, with four separate death dates. Maybe they'll kill themselves. Maybe they won't. It's a waste and a shame, but as much as I loved them, my life's better without them. It is a wonderful thing not to have that as my problem.
My BPD S/O seems to be okay when she smokes pot. She smokes a lot of it and claims it keeps her from having flashbacks of being abused as a child. It also makes her "not hate herself and feel like a worthless person". She's broke and spends 3-5 hundred a month to stay high. If she runs out she becomes sucidal and claims that if her kids and I loved her we would make sure she never runs out of pot. Can you share your opinion on this matter? Thank you and thank you for this most informative blog.
ReplyDeleteHi anonymous,
DeleteThanks for your kind words.
Unfortunately, I can't give a worthwhile specific psychiatric opinion or any advice about an individual in this forum, or even comment about anyone without formally assessing them in person.
I don't know about your S/O, but in general, people who need to be stoned all day are trying to escape and zone out. That may be OK in the short run, but is self destructive in the longer run. I run down the type of psychotherapists who can help in this type of situation near the end of the post: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/matter-personality/201205/finding-good-psychotherapist.
A person does have to be willing to go to therapy. You can't make them.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Thank you for your prompt reply, Dr. That is actually quite helpful.
DeleteThis blog is DANGEROUS. 8% Of people with bpd commit suicide and you're basically saying ignore it. I wonder if anyone has died because they read your blog and ignored warning signs? I'm contacting your webhost. This needs removed.
ReplyDeleteMs. Kelly,
DeleteMaybe try actually reading the post.
In no way do I say ignore suicide threats, and I mention the statistics you quote.
Quote unquote: "So one does have to take suicide threats seriously."
DeleteI have a daughter who has two attempts and just keeps threatening more. She has been hospitalized four times in past three months. I'm b feeling very manipulated. She is 15. Any suggestions?
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I can't give any specific psychiatric advice in this forum, since these situations are all somewhat different.
DeleteIn general, for a teenager I recommend family therapy, but finding someone familiar with this type of problem can be difficult.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
i spend many a sleepless night in front off my pc studying BPD because i want to have deeper understanding of my partner's mental state and out of fear that she will actually go through with the threat. she is a military veteran highly trained in hand to hand combat, so i secretly had to get training to defend myself. then she went to verbal abuse, when she realized she cannot harm me physically anymore. when she realized that i have equipped myself with mental blocks she started attacking the person i care for most... herself. her friends cannot help as they do not believe the nice sweet lady can become what i have to live through. i have a personal therapist who supports me and contacts me on a daily basis and help me to stay sane. she won't admit she needs help.
ReplyDeletei spend many a night just studying BPD> for two reason, one to equip myself, and two to assist my partner in the best way i can in her suffering. i have become thick skinned, a fierce hand to hand combatant and very aware of any hints of an episode. her curses does not effect me any more, but i feaar she will attack the one person i care for the most, herself. i have to lock up the knives, make sure her meds is non-lethal and stay awake till i am sure she is sleeping.
ReplyDeleteI had to leave my so two days ago and she was the same way. It bothered me because I couldn't save any money at all! I also found out that she was a pathological liar as her father never once hit her... Her older brother had told me this. So make sure that she isn't also NPD, and that she isn't just using that as a manipulation tactic. I had to leave, and I was threatened with charges of assault, charges of drug possession, (because she KNEW I had pot on me, which wasn't true...) and she also told me that I abused her daughter for 5 years! (I never even raised my voice at her kids, and I tried my hardest to protect them from her sick mind games.) I finally had to leave, and I have texts of her trying to blackmail me into staying. So I am being forced to protect myself for once. Sometimes, there is nothing you can do when the other person likes their behavior. She will probably feel guilty later, but I can't ever trust her again because I have no idea if she will accuse me of something when we are alone and call the police!
ReplyDeleteThank you. Thank you for this blog. Reading this today was so validating as it's exactly what I've been dealing with my 21 yr old daughter. This is so hard. And so scary. And its been critical not to show fear.
ReplyDeleteThank you.
Michele
I am 35 with bpd,ocd,add,pmdd and anxiety. I have been married for 3 years and my jealousy and mood swings are destroying my family. I have no friends and put it all on my poor husband. We can't go to the mall or watch a movie without me thinking he is attracted to another woman. I have rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus, and juvenile diabetes which gives me anxiety attacks any time I'm having issues with those. The local ambulance know me by name. My husband has compassion fatigue and is feeling abused by all the jealous accusations wherever we go. I can't kill myself because I'm terrified to die. I have Medicaid and have limited options to good therapists. My elementary aged daughters are suffering from this. Please what do i do?!
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for these free posts! My mom has BPD and I'm starting to show more and more BPD traits, so I'm not certain I can pull this stuff off consistently, but I'll definitely try. I am seeing a therapist and will talk to him about it next time I see him. Thanks again
ReplyDeleteI have BPD. Internet searches for help only make me feel like I'm a monstrous excuse for a human being intent on destroying the lives of others. This is no exception. In the years since my diagnosis I've engaged continually in therapy and educated myself, but tonight I just needed some support. This was not the right place to come. Nor were the hundreds of pages before it
ReplyDeletePeople dealing with loved ones with bpd can also get help at https://www.reddit.com/r/BPDlovedones/
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